That intern-ship has sailed; why not paying your interns could mean everyone misses out

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That intern-ship has sailed; why not paying your interns could mean everyone misses out

Unpaid internships have been a source of controversy for several years. A quick Google search will bring up many an article, including the Guardian and the NUS. Not quite so prevalent are articles on internships in the charity sector. And the sector goes suspiciously quiet when the thorny subject comes up.

Charities can employ unpaid interns because they can count them as volunteers. As someone in our office pointed out, since charities rely on and indeed run on volunteers it’s hard to draw the line between the necessary accepting help for free and exploitation. Charities couldn’t afford to pay everyone that does something for them. But for me, it just doesn’t seem right that a charity does not pay its interns.
 
Dealing with the classic irony first brings us to Amnesty International. They fight for human rights all over the world and run an extensive internship program, but they do not pay their interns. Neither does Free the Slaves. Oxfam had an income of over £365 million last year, while the NSPCC and Macmillan Cancer Support both got close to £150 million. All offer unpaid internships.
 
I myself have been on unpaid work experience at a prominent charity. The difference was that I contacted them myself, they took me in for a week and I gained some crucial experience without which I wouldn’t have got my current job; a paid internship. But expecting someone to work full time, or even several days a week, without pay to support themselves is not right. If charities are campaigning for change, surely they have a duty to help the very people who in the future might help effect that change.
 
Obviously I am not saying that charities should exist purely to provide paid employment. But aside from the moral aspect, I think they are missing an opportunity in that they are thinning out potential applicants based not on skills, but on wealth. Anyone who can't support themselves for six months will not apply. First-time workers are usually very motivated, work long hours and will often accept a low salary. But when that project needs finishing at 8pm on a Friday night, is an unpaid intern really going to cancel ‘date night’ to work on it?
 
Furthermore, thanks to the job market it’s now possible to get someone with relevant work experience, a first class degree and a Masters for almost minimum wage. And you might be able to choose from five of them. Our recent internship vacancies produced a huge number of superbly qualified candidates.
 
The point is, aside from it being the right thing to do, paying interns is going to open up your organisation to some top quality applicants. Assuming you choose the right one, you get a motivated and talented person who is essentially undertaking a six month job interview and competency test and what better pool to recruit permanent staff from? We currently have two former interns as permanent staff. But then, we also offer paid days off to volunteer at charities.
 
The job market should be a meritocracy; give us all access, sit back and let us impress you. After all, charity starts at home right?
 

Rob White

Paid Marketing Intern (but is always available for pay rises Joe).

Agree to some degree? Or should I be interned for writing this? Leave a comment below.

Submitted by Andy Keen-Downs (not verified) on 20 Sep 2012

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I run Pact, a charity for people affected by imprisonment. We have around 200 volunteers, including my Board of Trustees, and for the first teim, two paid interns, who are working in our small fundraising team. We have turnover of £3M. The intern posts we have created are for posts for which we couldn't afford the risk and committment of a permanent full time salary, but we want to test the water. For this, we need to attract talented, enthusiastic and hard working people, who want the work experience and coaching, and keep them for at least six months. We have two great paid interns as a result and after a few months the results are already beginning to show. I would be interested to know if people have had similarly good experiences using unpaid interns. Andy Keen-Downs, Pact

Submitted by Jan Golding (not verified) on 20 Sep 2012

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I run Roots HR CIC, the UK's first and only human resources consultancy to deliver through a social enterprise model. We offer two paid internships per year, get fabulous candidates and fantastic input to our organisation from them. Our clients are civil society organisations, some of which are run by very experienced leaders and where meaningful work experience through internship could easily be offered - but where there is no budget or funding for paying those interns. The income of the charity is irrelevant - paying those interns would take money and that is money that will not then be spent on front line services. But what a travesty not to offer that work experience just because there is no funding to pay for it. There may be some whose circumstances mean they cannot apply for unpaid work and that is a real shame - but so is a failure to offer the valuable experience of working in a sustainable civil society organisation as an important stepping stone between education and paid employment.

Submitted by Eco Scout (not verified) on 20 Sep 2012

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At our German charity, offering political education and online campaigns to foster public involvement, we have only paid interns. Additionally, we only accept students still in education, not graduates. There is an organisation establishing these rules as a good practice model for NGOs, called fairwork e.V. (in German only, sorry) http://www.fairwork-ev.de/
We are very happy with this model - as are our interns. Go for it! Eco Scout
European Level, interns self organizing: http://www.generation-p.org/

Submitted by Jayne Cravens (not verified) on 29 Sep 2012

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The promo for this piece said "But is it really right for a charity to have unpaid staff?" It's why I came here to comment on the blog - unpaid staff are called VOLUNTEERS.

Is it appropriate to have volunteers in leadership roles? Roles with a large time commitment? Roles that require expertise? Yes. Board members are such volunteers.

I am firmly in the big tent regarding who is a volunteer: pro bono consultants, executives on loan, court-ordered community service people, online super fans, online community members, and, yes, even interns: they are all volunteers. A much better question to ask is this: why does an organization involve volunteers, including interns? If the answer is first and foremost to save money, to not have to pay people, then such organizations deserve condemnation. Just as some jobs are best done by paid employees, some nonprofit/NGO/charity jobs are best done by unpaid staff! Certain positions should be reserved specifically for volunteers.

When should interns be paid? I blog about this myself here:
http://coyoteblog.posterous.com/are-interns-exploited

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